Read before buying the X Scorch 360:
The reason these never work is that the game is programmed for analog control. The mouse can effectively “mimick” analog, but the problem is the reason people prefer mice is the much *greater* range of movement. This is something that can’t be mapped down to analog and back up. Imaging flicking your mouse in Counter Strike to spin around 180 degrees. There’s no equivalent analog stick movement that will do that that fast, thus the mouse can’t send that input to the game. It’s as simple as that. Console shooters are designed to be played with the console’s controls, IMO it’s just a different sort of game and one worth embracing rather than just considering them flaws because you’re used to M&K (flanking someone in Halo means so much more than in Unreal for instance).
The comment above (from this post) explains why all those expensive devices that allow you to use a mouse and keyboard with the Xbox 360 don’t and won’t work. The X Scorch uses an interesting nunchuck and mouse combo.
Here’s the demo of the X Scorch that’s doing the rounds. Everyone’s enthusing about it but it probably has the same lag issues the other devices that do the same thing have. Using the device might get you banned from Xbox Live too.
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Excellent post. It’s good to see some proper testing and explanation of how these work rather than the usual marketing manure.
“Imaging flicking your mouse in Counter Strike to spin around 180 degrees. There’s no equivalent analog stick movement that will do that that fast, thus the mouse can’t send that input to the game. It’s as simple as that. ”
ahh, no. I own an xbox360 XIM setup and I also own a Frag FX for the PS3….both are able to do what the nitwit claims it can’t. Are they equal to the PC in terms of sensitivity? no but its pretty damned close. What Gamepad “only” users can’t comprehend is that some of us simply can’t stop be conscious of the fact we’re using an inferior control device. I can’t lose myself in the game. Until MS gets past the myth that allowing Mouse/key on their precious system would be “unfair”, the rest of us have to make do with items like the Scorch.
I’d love if MS enabled mouse and keyboard control in their games. It doesn’t make sense that they don’t. Is there any noticeable lag with either system? If they weren’t so expensive I’d almost buy them to test them but there’s that nagging doubt in the back of my mind about them.
That and because you might get banned of course for using them on Xbox Live. 🙁
this kind of gear is usually cheap and laggy. pc players who are used to their hi-tech keuboard+mouse will probably get disappointed.
video game consoles=gamepad! playing with a mouse&keyboard on a console is gay!
I would think the big deal would be about just the mouse, not the keyboard. The nunchuck would be more comfortable, more ergonomic, and the analog stick offers much more control for moving your character than a keyboard can since keys are either on or off with no range inbetween. Analog sticks are inferior for aiming, but for dimensional movement it’s a different case.
I used the PS2 splitfish and loved it. Unfortunately it doesn’t work on my Xbox 360 even with the PS2 controller adapter. This is wireless so I’ll try it out, knowing that the conversion will never be perfect. I’d like to use it on the PC as well because I don’t think highly of keyboard controls.
The latest Scorch firmware works excellent. I prefer the black ops firmware (even on MW3) as it has great precision for Insane sensitivity. The scorch works loads better than the XFPS Sniper 2 (my previous device) and I can’t fault it, it just works well. Occupationally you will get random tiny bits os lag, unless you put the receiver next to your mousemat with a usb extension.
That quote at the top is only relevant if you use low sensitivity like a child would with a controller – when you set it to max, you CAN spin stupidly fast.